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100% Realtalk Podcast 129 | @Daniele Ganser | Ukraine | C.I.A | Kriegslügen | Nazis | Geheimarmee

Dec 01, 2022

100% Realtalk Podcast 129 | @Daniele Ganser | Ukraine | C.I.A | Kriegslügen | Nazis | Geheimarmee

I'm with you and it's going to be a good day yes friends yes friends I'm happy that the big day has arrived welcome my dear

Daniele

Ganser

correct me the viewers but especially my partner B has been waiting for you for a long time welcome definitely I don't lie many Thanks for the invitation, it took me a while to get here, but I'm already here, how long did I extend the invitation a little over two years ago, if I remember correctly, we had the legendary show with our argument between the AFD on the way and the illegal wars were put on the table for the first time yes something like that a good book that's a good book there were also many quotes from him where it was also about certain hairs - raising issues against it specifically on the issue no there where it was said then that the Americans would have to defend themselves and that all this military action and so on would be absolutely justified, which would happen that's what we do when we're attacked and so what if an i invited with a respect that exceeds you then you have to confront him with certain facts they prayed 7 should be on the table yes that is the least to have since then hardly a month has passed that has happened where no one has written when it is finally being talked about for real and it's finally time so congratulations i have to admit it hurts because the name was quoted and i also think what you are doing is very interesting things for many thank you thank you came to berlin and your presentation until tomorrow and i thought that fit but that it fits perfectly too i have to say the bridge between us two is also known for calves already discussed privately because i was a guest on fritz radio for the first time in 2010 then again on Cam FM and then at some point Kel came up with it A video came out in a movie and a Swiss historian appeared there who began to tell very interesting things and that's how I found out about Daniela yes that was it I don't know how old is it but know me back then in switzerland us or i have one filmed and i was still thinking how can that just put his long uncut interview on youtube.
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I thought they had to edit it together. 5 minutes 10 minutes max. the world or the public that few people really know about you, know your circles, you are like Chuck Norris, in a way, you don't have such a high reputation, but actually that surprises me a lot because in many points, be it Corona, wars of aggression, all the things that you have very, very interesting statements and very interesting opinions and then I think I'm more like people who don't get their knowledge from the mainstream media who know you. It's something like that, yes, in the big media they defame me a lot, but those who read my books say it's interesting, those who come to my father's say it's interesting, and those who have subscribed to my YouTube channel and they say I tell them, that's interesting and they tell me that no matter what ARD says about

Daniele

Ganzer or what the Neue Zürcher Zeitung writes and no matter what exactly the meteorologist says, I can ask what kind of hashtags they always throw you with in your Head to the athletes or conspiracy theorists because I say enough, we were lied to on 9/11, 2001, that's my main issue, um, I wrote my PhD thesis on NATO's top secret and I didn't actually say anything until I got my PhD always said to myself I will do my job I will educate myself now first myself and then when I got my PhD because I was 29 I said so now I have two and three points that I would like to address and in September 2001 I just did my PhD upon the issue of staged terrorism and secret NATO mowing and then this terrorist attack in the US came along and then I held back a bit at first but in 2006 I still held back for 5 years then I commented on it and then I would refer to the conspiracy theorists who formed it because they only know boogie to no eleven there's just no other narrative allowed than Osama bin Laden's and we had to attack Afghanistan after that and then I don't say hi guys and I told you not today, so i won't say it's ok they're right i'll say no no it wasn't that interesting so they basically handed in their Phd thesis at that time which then was based on exactly those things exactly reacted to me the university Well I have the doctoral thesis, you have four years in which you work on a subject and I said that I would like to said a lot about Operation Claudia Operation without problems I don't even know that I was in London afterwards and the landeskalifikanormis and the politicians are from definitely experts in the field of international politics and then I said there what do you know about what history and international politics professors and they said yes we don't know that much there was a scandal in 1990 in Italy that somehow a secret was discovered more, I said yes, you don't know anymore, so that's the minimum, there's a lot more information about it and then they said no, but you can do research on it and then I researched terrorism for four years and also staged terrorism, it's I mean, tourism, there's actually, so to speak, the terrorist convinced that I'm going to get blown up and not be directed by the secret service and then there's also the terrorist who's actually controlled by the secret service and then n's actually the secret service the terrorist and that's the hardest thing for people to understand because people have trouble paying taxes yes no one likes to pay yelling but when tax money these go to the beginning and the state is actually in the Ministry of Defense the secret service has the military secret service and then they carry out a terrorist attack then you looked down the drain twice first of all you have to pay taxes and secondly the secret service will kill you and you can't imagine that like most people. , I just can't imagine it working and then I looked at the documents first in Italy that Julian Draht had, who was my minister in Italy at the time and he said in 1990 okay, it's true that there is a secret Italy. and then there was a big, yes, a big scandal, so it was in the year 1990 when he was at the same time in Italy that scandal to say that there was no on the Internet, very few people were able to get this information no, I have to investigate a little, no, that's how it went, so to speak, just through some newspapers for some TV channels and then I watched it some more. up close and then I saw that they told the Belgian defense minister in Italy that's unbelievable you have one more secret here and then others also said that the prime minister told him you're home too sorry I'm the defense minister who was well blown up and he has his chief of staff so the chief of staff is actually in the army he is always the highest general according to the defense minister the highest general so to speak we have a secret army he he said yes, we said no, well he said yes, defense ministers come and go, you know, that's always a new way to form a government, we can't tell you everything and then I saw that as or Belgium had an arsenal too secret and then the p26 was also flown in Switzerland it's a secret in Switzerland and something like that is doubly funny because these secret arsenals were created by the CIA and the A6 these are the American English secret services after WWII and the show was actually when the Russians came and occupied Europe which didn't happen but they thought maybe they would come so we'll build gun caches everywhere with explosives with machine guns with gold too , or a bicycle and a radio, just what you need when you need it you want to form a guerrilla and then we can blow up bridges in the occupied territory or we can shoot the Russians or we can if the American pilots are shot down the plane has been shot down we can take out the special Atlantic where they will later be taken over by a submarine that is Prepare Steve's idea and it has always been like that d NATO doesn't do that, but the seam does, and then the one in Italy was called this secret Gladio and the problem is that parliament doesn't I knew nothing about that, and yes, the population didn't know anything about that either, and you really can't do that in a democratic state, you can't do it, you can't say yes, we have the army here I went and then there is a second one, very secretly, and then it also happened in Switzerland, they later revealed themselves at the same time as in Italy and Switzerland.
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B26 revealed itself yes, thanks again in Switzerland. It's like this army. I'm sure what was proven is that in the mountains these weapons depots where you know we have first of all we have a lot of mountains and that would of course be a good place to hide things and this p26 there was a and a parliamentary commission of inquiry because the swiss parliament also said wait a minute we have a secret army in addition to the regular army which doesn't work at all and then the parliament was angry that the parliament can give the money for each tank you buy each for each cartridge for each rifle for each cap for each boot that the parliament approved, that means that the parliament actually has to approve all the expenses of a military nature and but don't think that they were also a bit on the hare and always face Japan but many didn't know that either, not many Did you know that in Switzerland we have the National Council, there are 200 parliamentarians and we will have the Council of States, there are 46, that is, 246 parliamentarians, so it is a two p camera speech They were informed that way, they just said we would inform them and then we did.
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I looked at the data and said that I can only speak as a historian. I can only say yes, that is not possible. You can not say. We will inform these ten of Parliament. The other 230 do not have to know that this is not possible. that way there was parliamentary control in one there wasn't and then I gave a conference in Zurich about NATO's secret harvest and then the general was very busy there, of course he was older and retired because it doesn't matter, they always come like this 10 20 years later and then I also spoke to him and said yes, how was that, the acting defense minister in Switzerland, the Kasper said much further in 1999 I don't know anything and there we are asking them, rabbit or not and then he asked me Stein explains that the General Staff Schäfer said yes, that was done in such a way that, firstly, it is not in writing, secondly, as chief officer, I have a report rt what we are doing to him to the government secretly and they just didn't say anything so this is a rabbit so they say tell me something i'm listening i think it's ok beautiful yes interesting but i don't say much well belash go on i say i just think its a rabbit or not in writing and that is of course there were also these secrets in france so for a very short time you think that is of course also because not you want to leave none evidence if you put things in writing then it could be someone is lying you know it in vicky prison leaks it's unbelievable he should be released but i will say this thing with the secrets caught me in one in the field i was there four years you know what they are other people, that is a privilege to investigate a topic for four years.
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I've been to London I've been to Switzerland I've been to New York I've been to different places I've met people from the CIA in the US he asked and had contacts only in jobs he had helped me in the American professional team Basten so it was an exciting time. I learned a lot about the status of the doctor or the reputation or connection you had access to. that yes and so they are not instagram well that was just that first i finished my job so if you study history you can say that i did a driving school until i was 20 then i did the military service in switzerland because that is obligatory for us and then, after the service of military photography, I started studying history, I wasn't very well known in any way or anything special, and I just did my history study and then at the end of history study you have to write a master's thesis or a doctor's thesis is that earlier and I wrote about the Cuban Missile Crisis I said Cuban Missile Crisis 1962 there was d The world almost faced a nuclear war so to speak Kennedy was president in the US Big things in the USA a lot and Christoph just brought too many rockets to Cuba exactly 61 that was the invasion and then 62 was the Cuban Missile Crisis and then I also have this book that Jumps sent who is just a professor influencer ent in the usa and i was very well knownwell known until now yes i have read his books and i have read about 50 60 books on the cooper crisis and then i found the jumps now complete now is one of the best of the many books which I've read and so that's maybe maybe about that he was a bit cheeky I thought from the beginning as a thank you I'll send him my analysis and then he said yes you have to post that very good analysis of yours and I said yes then they can in the part after he writes a book which is a good book he still says yes of course then I will write that very exciting study and then came the contact and then I met William Blum in Washington who is a journalist who mostly the coup against Allende in 1973 decidedly investigated, he also worked for the US state and then became a critic and wrote a book killing the hope that you use militarizing Ciao a dventions Ciao operations I thought I wanted to fo sign the meeting.
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I flew to Washington and we talked for a long time and then they just said that theirThe research on Cuba is good, we think it's great, we're finally supporting someone from Switzerland who is looking at this covert operation from a Swiss point of view, if you will, and when I had the subject of my doctoral thesis, I asked Bill and the Norm guys what do you think would be an exciting topic and they said the operation would be good because that's all in Italian because there was a scandal in Italy and I can speak Italian because I was born in Lugano in Italian speaking Switzerland and they said that Not all of us speak Italian and we can decipher that English came from the USA and they don't know how to speak German either because in Germany there was also this whole scandal.
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They spoil right-wing extremists in it and that was a big scandal. Can you break it down again very briefly? I can see how the structures are a bit complicated within the Ministry of Defense. There is the secret service and they have it in there. the military secret service have it too they also found a gladia structure so the generic term is to stay behind and in Germany too and the German structures to stay behind and they were actually controlled by the BND Federal Intelligence Service huh and they wanted a anti-communist orientation and that's why the right-wing extremists recruited because they said that the right-wing extremists are already the communists, you can shoot well, you too, that fits and was great at the time, Chancellor and was the first all- Elections Germans, yes, the reunification here in Berlin was a big problem, the fall of the Wall in 89 and 90 was just that, the scandal broke out and there it was never really inappropriate Now there is no one to talk about when you are happy with the reunification and so and then it's totally covered so you actually cut this topic more secretly in Germany and right-wing extremists never worked secretly but e The matter is documented. , yes, yes, in my book after the secret there is a chapter on Germany that is all occupied yes, I also know that to differentiate the total there, but I wonder, isn't it also a bit of a foreign legion sub-term, what is it something completely different? again because I recognize that foreign legions were there yes they were also secret in the sense of quotes but you have to differentiate yes of course the foreign legions were used mainly in Africa but they fought there in the French night and this here is Europe and that's a bit different so here I would say that the people who in The secret mowers actually had a feature that didn't go abroad at all but stayed in Europe and waited in Europe for this Soviet version that's a little different but the ones i will tell you the techniques how to blow up a bridge of course that's the same again so the foreign legionnaire learns the same technique as how to blow up the bridge or how to jump out of a plane with a parachute how all that the special forces train is actually a small one to leave somewhere in a small unit and then orient yourself with a compass and get by with little food all these are techniques of forces is special and you are absolutely right foreign weapons are doing that and that was also the case with the Operation here with the right extremists and the secret army here in Germany so to speak which did not get much attention or said a Little that they kept quiet about us because this book of yours was new information for me, that I don't have at home, for example, that we have secret armies, that's when you look at how the media is constantly framing there today, like the people who are in against a vaccine, for example, are the

Nazis

or people who are demonstrating somewhere are going to have a different opinion than the mainstream and cut to the chase now because this term is now being thrown around in such an inflationary way that it probably we were all

nazis

at some point and when those things then come up that are actually proven and the hairy dreams are because you always hide behind the fact that you say that the nationals ocialism is the worst thing that has happened on earth hitler but the worst criminal all very well you can sign all that terrible what happened here so he is actually a nazi the biggest slander you really have here in this country ja ben can and then I wonder when those things come up so, that people don't lose a little bit of confidence in politics, which keeps telling them the exact opposite, it also reminds me a bit of the current situation with Russia

Ukraine

-conflict Apart from the fact that that we now have more or less Cold War 2.0 now it is more or less back, it is the old enemy, Russia is back now and now we have also received news in

Ukraine

that there may be far-right movements there as well. place within supposedly good people under Selenski then terms like robots or just idiots came up isn't it surprising that people point index fingers at other people so quickly and you Nazi should be destroyed and so on where is the Connection? to national socialism does not arise at all, nor does the connection with right-wing extremists smus that is only done to silence or insult or lose yes, that, that, of course, to say correctly, actually one technique is used and the other is denied interpretive sovereignty in the sense that you're not allowed to have a say here, we don't. i want to hear you that's actually that's the technique we use but you're right when you say it's amazing that these things don't get cleared up so if you say yes we definitely don't want to have anything else that's just remotely reminiscent of

nazis

m , so I want this to be extremely clarified and that was a surprise to me during the doctoral thesis that it really was not clarified at all because I said yes and I documented that there is more secrecy and I said and documented that the mirror has right-wing extremists working together and then when I did my doctoral thesis, their double page spread the dark side of the West, that was it.
Okay, but it didn't take long after that, so you actually have this NATO connections problem because it's a web of seams and seams that the largest military alliance in the world led by the US and actually has a NATO connection to the right. extremists and that well that shouldn't be so they say that's how the seam fits there any contact with right wing extremist where is antifa? Yeah exactly, it was generously overlooked and for example I have a point I made. In the chapter on Germany, because you didn't read it, I'll tell you what I discovered briefly is that in 1980 a terrorist attack occurred in Munich, the Theron of Munich at the Oktoberfest, it was a very bad attack, one of the largest terrorist attacks in Germany in 1972. where many visitors died But by chance and then I saw that in 1981 Heinz Lemke had an arms store We found out that either they secretly have an arms depot, they had to deposit explosives somewhere because when the Soviets come, you don't need to have explosives, you have to have them already deposited and of course it was a cemetery in Switzerland. these explosives in Italy in the mountains and here in Grunewald, yes, there are just these weapons depots, which of course need all the equipment, and then I said to myself, well, maybe this was it, this explosive was used internally , so there's always a danger when you build a secret one and you actually have structures outside parliamentary control then the explosives can suddenly go astray and then I took another close look at what the police reports say after the attack in Munich in 1980 and these right-wing extremists who carried out the attack at the time said we have Heinz Lemke's explosives and they can go there and the Lemke, the later very influential right-wing extremist and then they were captured and there was also a confession letter yes definitely there was an investigation and the investigation simply points to Heinzle and that was then a relaxed name.
Of course I looked into it and then I saw the design slamke he wasn't arrested so he knows there wasn't actually a terrorist attack in munich and then the right wing extremists say yes this heinz lemc has gun stores so he goes there right away and it says these weapons stores will now be dug up for the start but it wasn't but then a year passed and it wasn't until 1981 that hikers were on the Lüneburg Heath and discovered these weapons stores and then there was a whole network from arms depots and then I was like to myself ok so they don't have the Lemke blown up because their network was probably part of the baby house and then sa gt ok then you have to look at it a little closer and then i made it happen to lemke and then he was arrested for something else the right winger always had different operations after me and then he said i will testify and then he was dead in his cell which means the trail leads no further s beyond that but I found all this all this research on staying behind in Germany actually closed one has really loaded on surgery to this day most people don't know or if I have to classify it systematically I must Saying that the Americans of course took it after WWII because they were successful and Gehlen was then the head of the Gehlen organization and the Gehlen organization later. it became the federal night service and Gehlen was of course a high ranking officer in Hitler's army and the Americans knew they could use the

Nazis

d yes we can use the gels then and then not so surprising that, of course, there is this structure within the BND, but that was perhaps an excursion because I would know if there are right-wing extremists in

Ukraine

again there it was very good that we did this trip because that just gives a little inspiration to the connections in the brains from many people and also to understand the current situation a little better, also this with the Operation Paperclip that you just mentioned, that all the

Nazis

Werner von Braun really understood, for example, the inventor of the V2 rocket is a co-founder of NASA, etc., there are things like that that a lot of people just don't know, so you might have to explain it to them. people, er, the americans and the soviet and the british and the french conquered in 1945 known then two atomic bombs were dropped hirosakin japan and deut schland and japan and italy are defeated always the first easy point i say now, for the young 15 year olds that maybe they don't know, so they can really start over here and then the second point is then they hear that in the textbooks yes the Americans were against Hitler and the

Nazis

and they defeated them and stalin was also in hitler today against hitler against the seam they defeated ok that's the way it is and what people don't understand is of course the americans saw that you can still use some

nazis

because that means we're in against the

Nazis

, but just a moment, you three, we still need you, please wait after training after the shower. the sponsors, all part amnesia, have received a lot of amnesia because of the relevance of education research or education not first The team that was really the most important man, Gelen, really built the German secret service and that is also proven , so of course it can't be a conspiracy theory, but you can look it up.
Reinhard Gelen served under Hitler in the East so that's clearly a Nazi and the Americans led everyone to say yes you couldDevelop the secret service in Germany and people don't know about it and then in the 1950s this army secret already discovered a structure in Germany and then of course the US Embassy came right away and then they covered it up and it was clear there. the fact that the old Nazi networks were there and I would have thought that if I can prove that in my PhD thesis and that there are so many people who oppose the

Nazis

that are being attacked, that's the biggest speech there is, but there was no and there is also today to maybe build a bridge to

Ukraine

, ahem, the coup of 2014 The Americans did a coup in February 2014 and that raises the question of what role did the fascists play in this coup in KEF in February 2014 asks if it's proven that Americans are responsible for the word yes I think it's proven but you always have to so to speak historians are careful and say other historians see it differently so I have to admit here too they are just my vegetables and might want to explain why I came to this conclusion.
I wrote the book Illegal Warriors that came out. in 2016, two years after the coup and a chapter of this book is about

Ukraine

and then I always have to deal with data when you write a book and that's where I looked at what the Americans were doing in

Ukraine

and actually had a conversation, this is Victoria Nuland, this is the deputy prime minister of the US. She spoke to Jeffrey Pied on the phone and Jeffrey Pied is the US ambassador to Kief and in this conversation he says Klitschko, the boxer who should not be president or the prime minister is not fit for it and says that being decades young is the right thing to do The man of age and decade actually becomes a prime minister which means to me that is the proof of this wiretapped conversationon February 14 and I quote that in the book and I say look here Victoria Nuland called Jeffrey Pie that the ambassador and the The whole coup was actually controlled through the American embassy in Kyiv, which means that the people who they demonstrated they went to the American embassy again and again, not all of them demonstrated, but the leaders did, and then the Ukrainians had a little more detail about who looked at Nikolai Asar, for example, wrote a book about the coup Nikola Sarah was the prime minister in

Ukraine

who was ousted and yes if he is ousted then he is interested in how that really happened or and he says the leaders then left in May at the American embassy and outside the orders came and John McCain that is ei n US senator who has now passed away also flew to the protesters in May and said we stand with him and support OLED and he is the founder of Swoboda and Roboter obviously has very right-wing slogans clipped like yes, the Russians of the man yes among the people and these things so these are these are things where I say that it does not correspond to the humanist world I always say that everyone belongs to the human family and that is a phrase that I often say It doesn't matter if you are Turkish, whether you are not, whether you are Swiss or Brazilian, whether you are rich, you have a million or less than two marks People who are in the world belong to the human family, but what we have there in May since 2014 are quite extreme are the Ultranationalists in

Ukraine

and are used by the Americans and not so these statements of hair transmission also in relation to the Jews for example some things have already been said it is the OLED so it incubated hatred against Jews. and against the hated against the too rushed Rust against the Germans and ARD made a documentary at that time that was in 2014 I think the documentary was in April not sure if it was Monitor or Panorama anymore but such a good documentary , it was simply the question of what role did the fascists play with this potsch and the answer is big, so

Ukraine

's Putin was also made by the Americans in my opinion, but the Americans always need some people on site to work and that was the correct sector, they were the ultranationalists and since the circle was closed we have interrupted yes, the subject does not have one of the reporter he even said so childishly that they are not only good people exactly and one more question was, but you also say no it was a peaceful hit, no yes, and it will sell when it breaks of course, if your people are now asking. themselves why we have this war in

Ukraine

and then I always say that the war has not just started since Putin's invasion I mean on February 24, 2022 Putin invaded and if you keep listening to the news now and you think people there was peace before that is not true, actually it was from 2014 from the coup to Putin's invasion there are eight years from 14 to 22 and in these eight years there was a civil war in

Ukraine

it was simply not reported but there was no peace and in these thousand people I was 15,000 years old a lot a lot of technology maybe you are the closest bielage but it is below 20,000 but I will say 10,000 dead that is not a small thing and that is the osdaten, I think they are at 12,000 but in these eight years the country is in war and the Americans are arming the Ukrainian army and they are training the Ukrainian army and then you said like a superior battalion and so on. a part, so I might have to Let's say, in general, every country has an army, okay, Switzerland has an army, there are not three Armenians in Switzerland and they fight each other, or in Germany, the Bundeswehr, yes, and in the US there is an army. also, so Poland has a sea, and if you are waging a civil war and the kyiv government started a civil war after the 2014 coup against those areas of the country that did not want to submit to this coup, then to speak the government was mainly Crimea and then the tippers, so they wanted to belong to Moscow, yes, exactly So,

Ukraine

has different language areas, one area speaks Russian, but it is

Ukraine

who speak Ru Italian and another part of

Ukraine

and speak Ukrainian and you have to look very closely what is the language and in Switzerland we also have Italian in Ticino, we have French in Romandy and we have German in German-speaking Switzerland and a very, very small Vet-Romanesque group, but when you look at a country, then when I look at a country historically, I always have to look at these language groups, and actually the Russian-speaking areas naturally did not submit after the coup because the coup was led by ultranationalists who hated an all russian speaking so it's not the surprising case that then russian speaking areas said no well there was also a massacre or the russians burned it down it was really brutal and that was it since 2014 everything is a little forgotten people say no there was always peace there i have to always what i get so really a treat if i explain it again you were but we don't want to hear that and then yes i will form it myself or like with an eleven if i say that yes there is a third building but I really have to stress that there is this coup that indisputably overthrew President Yanukovych that is also indisputable and you hear that he still asks what is the proof that it was the Americans so the first area is really this conversation Victoria's phone call, she actually said you and you and Angela Merkel, then they had to react and say this is how you walk away she didn't have to react in a pattern either, but she really shouldn't have said it, like I said you shouldn't talk like that, but I should have said please don't overthrow the government in

Ukraine

because they were elected like that. they only elected kovic or 2000 and 10 and 2014 overthrown by obama and joe biden was vice president that's the joe biden being made up today oh so sorry a lot of people n die in

ukraine

well that's a liar because he overthrew the government there so actually caused a lot of damage by doing so of course it's also the ultranationalists in

Ukraine

who participated in this coup and that's actually closed this civil war that lasted 8 years bloody civil war bloody civil war and then triggered the Russian invasion and today we have a proxy war, but again, maybe just to put an end to this thinking with NATO cutting more secretly the CIA and the M6 ​​have right-wing extremists recruited in various Western European countries, for example in Germany, ex-

Nazis

Reinhard Gehlen, the best known, or in Italy recruited people of ordinary, are right-wing extremists Vincenzo Vinciara is actually the best -known and testified after a terrifying attack rorista and he said yes the secret service already knew that we are actually here when this network was active in this terrorist attack and Vinci guerra also said yes we right wing extremists how do we feel about war yes it is war cold but we fight, we kill and we are normal in a network that goes up to NATO so to speak He said yes he should donate to the crazy right wing extremists and then they locked him up like this and Vincenzo Vinci Vera continued to give interviews in prison he said but there are these NATO secrets and they were really discovered in 1990 and he did that in the 80s he said yes we actually worked with the ciao and then together and everything can't be like this and that's not possible and this pattern i saw clearly I see it again now and in

Ukraine

and I don't want to say that this here or NATO is extreme right so it's just the CIA or also MR6 the British secret service and also NATO the nu just send a couple of boys to their goals, and You know what I mean they just say well OLED January and Swoboda in the

Ukraine

we can put them to good use or Klitschko the boxer we can see so I say it's always that actually all the older men that they are planning these wars and they always say to themselves well if we could use them in Chile then let's take the pinochat as an example one said the good guy also with the mobilization of the kurds that is exactly what they will be for Purpose used but when already they are not helpful their age is also sacrificed its always a lot for lenski i think i have been dealing with a while to be honest and parliament reminds me a bit my knowledge is not so fraction corresponds purely to a bit of afghanistan parliament , which was always sold to people and then you also said at the time, even with little knowledge, that's all Nonsense that they go back there and attack yes, they also don't want the tea girls from Afghanistan to learn to read r and you know, thank you, I almost had a heart attack because of Klitschko because I was always so upset with him because he was often so transparent. why because he had the position at the time he was enthusiastic about a boxing sport and now he is very representative also residence I just found out recently and you said that also in one of your guys there really was this movie here too and he is an actor no, you have to say he first played the president of

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in a tv series where that means servant of the people and the people have done a lot of things far away and then you thought yeah he does pretty good and then he actually got elected president in 2019 that's how if you had a series here on netflix the chancellor yes and then I don't know who plays til schweiger if I am not an actor my wife says Moritz stays if you say huh a well known German actor will never play Switzerland then Tisch Schweiger will play the federal chancellor or Moritz Bleibtreu and then, four years later, it will be decided who will do it.
I would really be federal chancellor and it would be nice here not to be elected to parliament directly by the people, but let's say that Til Schweiger really converts and that's what really negates his political competence, then directly selenski is easy when you listen to him like that you give the feeling that he is just a puppet installed, so it is definitely the strictest wording you can choose, I am not saying that it is completely wrong, because of course there are these elements, but of course we also had powers, what powers does he really have, You have to ask why he was elected in 2019 and what would have interested me the most would be if SC manages to put an end to the civil war because the civil war told me that it will begin in 2014 with the American coup with a Newland victory with the factor of the EU with jeffrey pirate and all that and he can't do anything about it he can't help but he was picked 19 and then he went from 19 then the year is 2019 then the whole year is 2020 and then the whole year 2021 is in In these three years, Putina did not invade, it is three years, it will not arrive until February 22, and then I take it apart, then I take its map, then I have a timeline, I say okay, what is happening in the three years and then there were negotiations through Minz, so Minsk is the capital of Belarus, and there they met and said, let's stop the civil war, and that was a great idea, that would have been done, if we had not done it. had this new level of escalation with the blowing up of the Nord Stream Pipeline, which also found names for this war.
I found it very good. The name indicates that one has not chosen by hand. Gets a war with the ad. Thanks with the ad because you really could have gone there. Minsk um this this escalation there is always the way uh the escalation or the escalation yes and the idea of ​​the escalation would have been that the Russians were before the Russians it's Invasion that Silenski actually says against the Russians and also especially against the

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of He speaks Russian and says okay I won't bomb you anymore because the Don Bass is that but Hans sang these are these two areas in eastern

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that are now Russia we are not bombing anymore we are withdrawing our army and vice versa you are not bombing us anymore the first weapons are silent and then the armies actually have to split up a bit and that would have been the beginning and selensky didn't do that and he didn't do that in my opinion there we go back to the far right because the far right in

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said if you negotiate with the Russians we shoot you and that is also important to understand that he is fine in the end, tell me where is one of the best.
I can recommend an analyst on the

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war two times or three times, he was in Switzerland on the news di enst essen.de this is the strategic intelligence service of Switzerland responsible for the Eastern bloc, so the Eastern bloc used to be the enemy, so to speak. The NATO bloc was exactly everything from GDR Poland Romania Bulgaria Estonia Latvia is Slovakia Hungary and he was also in

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NATO and he really recognizes the whole process recognizes the different groups because what I criticize a little bit is actually that the People draw a very naive picture of

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here in the West, saying that all Ukrainians are victims, it is not so, some are perpetrators, some are victims and you have to differentiate those who carried out the coup, they are also

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and they are perpetrators and by no means In a way they have an innocent role in this whole game and Jackpot says that of course these right-wing extremists are also putting pressure on the president and we say that we don't want them to accept it he negotiated the big ones and in that sense Selenski is also a scourge of the Americans because the best actually votes for him, but he is also a scourge of

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's far right, who will definitely hand him over as well, so neither will he.
It's not an easy job, so you have to see it. I wouldn't want it, but is it a network like that or is it there. At a hierarchical level, Americans, for example, may have more or less control overthe extreme rightists in

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, so that they are given the order and the extreme rightists then have Silenski by the balls or is it a thought that is a bit too simple yes, it goes in the right direction yes, it is a bit difficult because everyone always has their own interests, so you know now I can take the contrast with the karagua yes, what is coming in nicarago had its own interests and divided against this arena, the next ones are the 80s, 1980s, but easy, then it will be easier to understand the contrasts in which caracco was a cia backed team force and now the selenski is not a gerillia troop and that the regular army and is provided with weapons by the usa especially with loans so if you don't grant loans, the war would end tomorrow, the money does not exist, but the Americans say that you want it.
I'll come back later than my piece except for the next 20 years you're actually in debt and that's the money that's flowing into the US arms industry but the connection is really like that if I compare it to Nicaragua and Iran against so in that moment they said we want to enter In fact we want Nicaragua to have the Sandinistas Weaknesses they are next they were a left revolutionary movement and at that time Joe Biden was not president in the US but Ronald Reagan and Ronald Reagan said which left should be the communists and the actors exactly and then Dragon has actually said ok and then we fight now in nicaraga these this to the next but he hasn't cht sent his own army but that's just another proxy so it was a proxy what are proxy wars where the secret service or high ranking military actually go and train each other and at the same time or yes right now we are We're jumping from Nicaragua to Vietnam, we can do fine until '45 is, if you will, it's the second world war, then the second way is over and then Vietnam is part of a German and French colony and then something very interesting. happens is that the French said that it is absolutely the last thing that the Germans would say that Paris conquered, it is absolutely the last thing that German soldiers trampled on our French soil, as soon as they are released they will continue to fly in Vietnam and bomb the Vietnamese and then always I looked at the protocols in the French parliament and then a member of parliament said yes, with his hands on his heart what we are doing now with Vietnam which is the same as what the Germans did to us last year and then the whole parliament there was a big yell big tension so that was a bit you shouldn't say that but let's go to vietnam because then it was from 45 to 54 the french are trying to control ar Vietnam through it again, it was a so-called colonial war where the colonial power based in Paris wants to control a distant area and there are all these things that I explained before with the gerillia, that's what they always come for, the same is this job later the french lose in the mpmp in 1954 and then of course the french are a big shame because first they lost to the germans and now they have lost to the vietnamese and got pushed by the reds eaten by the russians so to speak the thing it was that behind the scenes but after the Americans actually supplied both groups at the time it's a pretty shady thing on one hand they supported France but they also supported France and then fought them again so that's something that many people in

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today do not understand that these alliances are geostrategic alliances. we have felt that now we are brothers in arms and we will fight until we reach the goal no no that is what i always say call the kurds yes the americans have armed the kurds in syria they tried to overthrow assad now we jump from nicarago to vietnam and then ok we will see, but we can do it and if

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called the Kurds, they would understand that this is not about arms breeders, but the Americans are waging a proxy war as long as it is in their interest and at the moment the US is benefiting . because they are selling weapons but don't lose any of your own men because she says in the americas in the usa she looked at the sources a bit the americans say we will fight to the last

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thats cynical of course but to the point because they say that the Russians are losing men, the

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is losing men, the Germans, the economy is going. for the dogs yes nord stream is a fucking terrorist attack by the way because it's not explained here at all yes of course the next question is who blew it up we haven't gotten to that yet but I'll say it's like it is, actually it is not interesting for Germany, that this war lasts a long time, yes because it is weakening the German economy it divides the population between those who are in favor of arms deliveries and those who are against arms deliveries like those who were in favor of vaccination who were against vaccination that creates a lot of stress in society, for example, I am against arms deliveries to

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, but what I want to say is that

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is also deceived and that I In fact, it is my concern, so I have a conference here tomorrow.
Falken Falkensee, what is the name of the Falkensee? I am a bit outside of Berlin or just from there. I'm fully Swiss, but I'm driving grass. Those 800 seats are almost sold now. we have an additional contract made again 800 space I just wanted to explain that I actually want to tell people that we shouldn't kill each other anymore yes we all belong to the human family and if we look a little closer that's why the twist on vietnam yeah we always say the same shit in different directions and i keep saying there will always be people and they are always run by a people what do you call democracy or hierarchy or caliphate are they run mostly or all of them barely they can do nothing about it and then you always have the exact problem yeah the men below because these 20 year olds yeah and how did we think we were 20? especially when you are 20 years old you can be fooled pretty quickly you get it i have a good friend of mine he is the pizza baker with us and he says yes we were in italian now he is in switzerland Francesco and he has yes friends of mine told me in italy they said they were deployed here you're there and you get money when you're 20 when you're 25 you take the money and then they're the big BMW it's Mercedes which also risks more money but then you died from this iranium hemorrhages are very sick more late so you know guys will burn for 201 years guys will burn i'm so sorry in the first place for the guys and now i'm 50 and i want a A little bit of that also helps 20 year olds to understand when they always give them you say we're fighting for freedom so forget it or we're the good guys but both sides on both sides say that and they have to do it if they want to.
Do that Listen guys so my point would be to say put your gun down put your gun down if you really want a workout a tough workout yeah then deal with your own fear do martial arts well with me if you're looking for that fringe adrenaline or Bungee Jumping or Base Jumping or whatever there are different things without you having to shoot someone and we do the same with the women who are raped in the

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and the children there are so many traumas and it is a European war because Russia is up to the Urals they belong to Europe and

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to the Europeans too, but the Europeans are shooting themselves again and we really have to think and say stop, we have to stop with this child.
I also missed that point, you said the disadvantages of the economy and all the but it also puts our peace at risk because this time we are not going to the Middle East, the people there are not that good anyway possible if you see that you definitely die in the tell the axis of good and but that's exactly what puts our peace at risk because somehow there are street conflicts so the one who brings the guns is just as guilty and very complicated and I'm still missing something erm I'm moving there at the same time also full of the Bay of Pigs is a bit with such an extension.
He would often be quick to say what would the Ami do when the Russians are in Hawaii and we've seen that and the next one too with wars they always bubble up a bit more so in wars something like that I would have because my uncle was on the front lines when I was 13 , where should he have defected to what other army, to the Stalinists or to the colonial powers, then? everything is kind of Case yes and you say it right so the bay of pigs invasion so even though we've been in karagor during

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we've been to vietnam we've been to syria we're still going to cuba it's quite a real conflict wi because the kubak conflict it actually shows that the country was ruled by a Batista dictator until 1959 the classic foreigners have that or people can't read who gets sick dies only has access to the hospital there isn't and that's the banana republic you know enter the Third World and then Batista is overthrown in '59 by Fidel Castro and they were really a very small unit and looking back you think the guys there were the craziest that year or a mountainous area in Cuba they fought for there. and then he overthrew Batista and then suddenly he comes ah, that's not possible, many castes have taken power here in Cuba and then President Eisenhauer is in power with the users and he says yes, a little south Florida there In the Caribbean there is still this island of Cuba and the flaps where they can do whatever they want, well, um, now we are going to overthrow Feder Castro and N ixen is vice president later he will be president but at that time he is still vice president and many Castro flies to USA also does not hit anything but I do not like the following and they just think that we are going to fall and then the exact same sample images will return.
They discussed that the CIA still goes to Florida and says hello cuban guys here which one of you hates jolly and of course there are some from cuba who had run casinos before and again all the casinos closed and so on there are different reasons why some cubans who are in Florida hates a lot it's fine and the series is very many when the CIA is in Florida you don't know they're all Cubans what we don't love Fidel but 59 Frieda's coup was also illegal by the way they disturbed them and then we came to the invasion of Bahia of Pigs April 61 so now 59 60 it's exactly the same technology that the CIA takes the guys into exile like now with the Ukrainians or like with the muchardien in Afghanistan 79 and tells the guys that they probably still need some good training because They just stay here making music but they can't shoot properly, Well then they say we can't train them here in Florida because it would be a little bit co striking if we were to throw grenades and shoot. build a stand we also have to do explosions and so they are a bit familiar with the basic techniques of shooting, throwing grenades and doing explosions and if you can't do that we can't send you at all and then say yes no we can do that, we'll take it to gothamera then they take the florida guys to gothame and train them there and then who trains them because those are people bye and special forces so greenburst train you and then comes this bay of pigs invasion you mentioned in Google, then they drive from Guatemala, then such a small boat just goes to Fidel on the island and wants to overthrow the government in Cuba with the Bay of Pigs invasion only two years and there it is at the moment there are still different and completely new or usually the americans have overthrown the latin america govt was never a big problem but in this case yes it didnt work ned because the cubans also balb ucean a lot that means that it was not a secret because many Castor has his people in Florida and they never said that the Americans called they brought him the version my good brother is also doing it and his colleague Ramira is also doing it participates and the cousin participates and then It's an open secret because they just can't keep a secret or they say it's top secret I work with them yeah yeah you can't tell anyone everyone if there's a dance then I won't tell anyone of course maria to my good wife and maria says hey you wouldn't believe that we planned a fall of fidel and then we talked and actually when you do an invasion of an island you always have to turn off the air force first so that doesn't happen I have one here now I would like to give instructions for the invasion but uhm why do you come with it boat yes and if the other air was dying sinking your boss now the problem was you Cuban exiles in Florida you couldn't give them the air force if they didn't have air force Then the American Air Force did it, so to speak, you destroyed the planes in Cuba on the ground, fly over them all and that's what they did, but they didn't destroy everyone, that was the mistake, she doesn't have many planes, what about 40th time or you don't know, pack the man, but still two, three and these last planes then took off, many were the last planes. and when the invasion came they scuttled the supply ship and then they didn't stand a chance anymore so what are you doing as a gerilia with no supplies? it's very well documented, it's not that strong a conspiracy theory if you don't believe it ll but that's so well documented that everyone knows there wasso I can then I looked at the documents of the UN Security Council then the Cubans and I said hey people we are being attacked that was Raúl Rohr who was the Cuban ambassador to the UN and that is prohibited at the UN for a country to attack another country and then leih stevenson who was the us ambassador and he said i think its crazy i read that he said there were pilots in the cuban air force who were so mad at the dent they defected and before they defected they bombed their country of origin, of course, and then the images showed these of this plane and it said right on the revolutionary that is the abbreviation of the Cuban Air Force but that is what they still have on it and that was easy and you can change so much that you can see ah that's right if Flag you write the wrong name on the folds ah and that's a hoax in the UN Security Council the ambassador says some nonsense that just isn't true and then you deny it all for so long As little as you can, but then if things really go wrong and they really did go wrong, then they had to be able to say at the end, okay, yeah, it was us, but Kennedy took over this operation from Eisenhauer. , so Eisenhauer was president until December, a little bit of January, early January 1961 and then Kennedy comes in from this beautiful, this charismatic new president, then the boss and the CIA just report everything on everyone and he tells them, by the way I never planned it. an invasion well now you're president but it comes from time to time i wish i could tell everyone there we won't do it but everyone there it's theirs says it works and then when it didn't work kennedy got really mad so jfk fired him and because it was just advice from the CIA and a network of extremists was founded in my opinion and they didn't shoot anybody these things are super exciting very very interesting in any case so there were also a lot of parallels that you can now point to For example, we talk about Vietnam, we jump a lot because of that, yes, but there are so many names, series from Cuba, but it's the same. all of these events connect certain dots simply when you look at the fact that for example both sides are financed by Vietnam there that of course reminds us of Iran Iran and Iraq also get for example eight years and were always financed in such a way So that somehow worked, the balance is balanced because Iran is militarily much stronger.
White Iraq. On the other hand, there was also the Iran Konrad affair that you just mentioned. What we talked about is the connection again, you can go into more detail if you want, that was back then with the elections, for example, it was connected to the fact that there were some American prisoners in Iran, then they were released a little bit later that they were supposed to be released and that affected the elections, how do you say that it had an effect, on the other hand, the training of any forces in different countries to organize wars and it is not remembered, yes, even then a little bit of their mother and then from Al nussra then alkaida and so on so that you also have a change between the good and the bad is where at first we developed the good ideas against the bad Russians later it was said but then no, they are the bad ones because they Now I have attacked the United States, so it is alkaid, but more or less the succession of this group.
On the other hand you look at why then you also have a parallel again between Afghanistan and Vietnam because Vietnam Laos and Thailand this triangle was Cambodia back then exactly that was responsible for I think over 90% of all opium is traded in the for control the world from there the products came not only medicines but also a lot of drugs especially urine and after the invasion after the 9th it moved to Afghanistan now you have more than 90% opium heroin delivery from this area and if you if you look at it then you realize that the patterns are always the same, you go somewhere if you have to there, you even use right-wing extremists to achieve your own political goals, then it's absolutely fine, then it's not the ones anymore bad. if people are benign at first like the mother here but then a few years later they are the meanest in the world and then mush s one eradicates oneself and so on because it's not directly AIDA but there has been development towards exactly that that's something I then look at the newspaper articles and then I look at how they're actually going to be the mother we always go to until now Afghanistan Afghanistan the CIA since the summer of '79 the mutscher-hedien updated you have to know when you talked about the women's rights in afghanistan before women held high office in afghanistan in the 1960s and 1970s yes it was very good very well developed medicine studying access to education emancipation all that i consider really good and valuable and then the Ciao says that we have a couple of motherfuckers who we also moved from the border near Pakistan, they are actually holy warriors in the sense that they are He is It's very traditionally connected to mainstream Islam which just says the role of women is how they should stay in the house so I spit ze too but that's a bit of the short version and then the CIA supports the mother who would have and it's as bad as you say goes to war where the soviet union then leads in afghanistan in dec '79 this Vietung marches and in afghanistan a Yes and '88 they withdrew again and then they lost ok the soviet union loses in Afghanistan lost a lot of blood and Reghinsky made that there was Jimmy Carter's security adviser said that was a great idea we support these Muslims here so we actually have them tied up in Afghanistan for 10 years and then they bleed to death and that's actually the pattern for

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so

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is afghanistan two zeros that people in afghanistan die from it that's the whole system the americans break it and it doesn't don't matter at all it really doesn't matter ta and they say the same thing in

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it was a proxy so we don't support the mother idea now n because in

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there is no mother but there we directly support anyway color doesn't matter anymore so ok let's take the that we have here, but we have them there, so we will take the zack here, how much money do you need? non-role guns get everything and training of course too and then they get called and you say that ok it's also about framing then they get called freedom fighters they're the same guys they're the exact same guys, so their attitude towards women is not breaking another one it was always the same because they are like any madrasa tree yes they really have this conviction women have nothing to say and these audios only have at the end for people to understand how absolutely unscrupulous the people in the secret services are operating and so that was also shown very well also the whole karagor thing about the contras and so on we were also shown because yeah right your people didn't give a shit either , because to support these revolutionary forces there in South America, Central America, they sold cocaine for that, you have to think about it, because that is hip hop and in itself it is usually an urban platform here, even when we talk about political things and stuff, of course, it also has a very long history with cocaine, but especially with the sale of crack in the US, especially in the ghettos there in California, la and so on, it's it's just that the people who got it were actually the secret service of the others who used the cocaine they sell the cocaine for themselves to equip some parameters exactly i don't know much about politics and i can't imagine my own government would harm the people .
Would you have to explain that this is how your own government schä? sometimes your own people i don't say always but it just happens and i would like to address a concrete example here we are going to nicarago again we have been to the karagor for all those who do not have exactly the map of the world in their heads as we can of the usa going south when we leave arizona, new mexico or california, then the next country is mexico that everyone knows and then we go a little further south, soon we will arrive in nicarago and go even further south through the panormal channel then we arrive in south america And now in South America, especially in Colombia, cocaine is produced, it is not produced in the USA, it is produced in Colombia, and the most important market for sale with it.
The biggest fairy tales are the US, but now you can say why Colombia exports cocaine and not to Chile, there are also people and they also have money, but it is not such a good market. only in capitalism it is only about the sales market

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is now a very good sales market for the arms industry and so on. and partly over land and normal the narrative is like that it's the bad guys of Colombia so Pablo Escobar and his colleagues and everyone in the US government but really they're all against it that's the normal narrative so you always get They tell it because nobody can want that in California on the streets. so the guys cocaine is made so that no one can want that because people really get extreme damage and the government can't really want that and then I say well that's what it looks like if you only have days but if you do, then investigate for yourself. he says ok how exactly did it go then you realize that the fight for karako is a different fight they say you want to overthrow the sandinistas ok they are going to be a revolution in the next few weeks and they are going to train them bring the school system requires you also bring them health insurance and, in fact, a valuable development before it was a dictatorship of this Moser dictatorship, so the same as Cuba Cuba we had Batista was overthrown and many casters and then revolutionary social movement and in Nicaragua we had this dictatorship from Moser Disco and then actually Sam the following have a revolutionary orientation that I would qualify as good and then Dragon says well that they are not communists, but they are communists, well, we want to overthrow them and overthrow these Sandinistas he says that they built the contras and the The contras are also people from Nicaragua, so it's the same as in the

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, you take a person who builds this the ground and puts them in a conflict in the one they shoot other people in their own country so you create that conflict and then these planes fly out of the US with guns these are small planes that we fly to Nicaragua and then they fly back empty and on point they say each other that it's fine so if we could deliver weapons there we could get cocaine there take and airlift RAVs and that's exactly what happened as you say and that in turn leads to cocaine use in the US Same thing.
Then of course the guy was president too so we had the bread boxes again that was the invasion of Iraq and the world and so on and then this trained actress crying that some babies were thrown into the floor with babies. you always have them with babies and grandmothers today. I can tell you a bit more about Iraq in August 1990. Darm Hussein invaded Kuwait. It is illegal. You can't do that, but the Americans said we'd kick it out again like the Kuwait operation. from the IT storm but to excite the American population a bit it has become a video so to speak without internet but it is still as reported they showed a lot on tv the naira said she worked as a nurse in the kuwait hospital and hussein's soldiers not only came to kuwait, which is already illegal, but if it stings, they are also in the hospital still people come when they are children and then you arrive at the neonatology department, a lot of people then , what about these soldiers from the neonatology department and then they took the newborn children out of the incubators and threw the calf and children on the floor where they died and then people were shocked and said what is really happening in the war where is Iraq Iran is the same country and then this mood was created and everyone believed because they said the New Year that I did that the nurse worked there I saw and then it became known that she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US and the whole story was told and designed by Helene Nolten but Busch Senior in power since '89 of course always rattled off the story and what we actually see and I'd like to say that again as a conclusion to our conversation here again those who organize wars against wars that play everything against each other the lies keep coming our way and that's why I think it's time to say we don't want these wars and we also want these war programs itself has always been a little bit dependent, not 100%, but to a significant extent as far as people's permission goes, you have to manipulate the mood of the people in your favor and for that you have to control the media and how you saw then this same guy, this George Bush, who was involved in the incubator lie, then has it At some point, his very, very competent son let us all loose, who later also gave the reason for the legitimacy of the war. aucht intervened in afghanistan which was one and then there was this story where he was often criticized because he held on to his cap well but we fended off the snow pretty well i think because the truth remains the truth whether we like it or not and we had exactly the same pattern there was an attack we talked about it at the beginningthere was exactly the same emotionality of the people back then it was the bread box and the kids this time it was of course our own population it can't be we can't let that sit on us 3000 world trade center dead but he'll make it , then it was taken as revenge it has produced over a million deaths recently we spoke briefly privately about exactly that this George W Bush even gave a lecture salary a university actually meant Putin but again it didn't work and Russia said that there was a power-hungry dictator r almost hit and then blurted out and said a city

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Iraq yes the bus actually wanted to but had given a lecture in Texas and actually wanted to criticize Putin or said it can't be that Putin had marched to

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he said holy in justified as a totally unjustified holy and justified invasion of Iraq and then he realized he was in Iraq it's unbelievable and what in real reality is not funny it's funny, but on the other hand, he later corrected himself and said that Iraq not only indirectly admitted but actually directly admitted with a joke that it is not the slightest justification for producing so many deaths on the other hand receives applause from the audience it's a joke and it's over and all this is one of the most interesting statements of the whole year 2022 n father became citizen of the year here in berlin and you just notice hey he has changed so much that the suffering of people no longer it's tangible if you had a small hill here on the street of 30 40 people and it would be like this lying on top of each other people are horrified everyone but after a certain point the dead are just a statistic or as I said great rapper also says that you can grab a corpse in the street the well cared for the whole world is shocked and the voters had a lot of views back then, they hardly had dvds on the internet, they are popular today, some of their t conspiracy theories or many of them are now in the ZDF Media outlet and I also see that what you said was very interesting with historians, who only analyze something 20 years later and every time they tell me that the protest, especially in Iraq, is not it was only because of the Trade Center but also because of the Iraq Free Series and the C guns were never g efound and the protest then always stays away and because the politicians are not always at the top no one gets in trouble on the Security Council of the UN in 2013 that's what the US Secretary of State said at the UN Security Council in Iraq there are weapons of mass destruction there are ABC weapons and then you started the Iraq war in March 2003 that was just the son Busch Junior who fought the war with over a million dead and then you find out and Paul admits it too so it was a stain on his career more said ABC guns didn't even exist than it was based on the fact that it happened the Iraq war we know and that's what I really want and maybe that's also the reason why I really enjoyed coming to you because first of all I think it speaks clear text I like that a lot so I don't know mince words, you are very knowledgeable, no, no, but plain language in the sense that it speaks directly to the heart is allowed to do that. it depends and I will say what we really see, so if we see well, the Iraq war is built, the flights, then we see the Vietnam war, the Gulf of Tankin, I have not spoken at all, but it is the same, it is also based on lies, then we.
We'll see with the Bay of Pigs invasion, Cubans were brought to Florida to fight other Cubans, okay, so you really take one group against another and then we see the same thing in Afghanistan, we're being armed first by the Americans and then by the The whole country is sinking in the War that was fought and it's actually being done to weaken them from time to time we bring the ass to the

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and say oh and in the

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we have the right wing extremists who were armed by the Americans for the coup then we support now again so we're really with them in this war in

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at a point where we have all the information we have now that we actually travel It's not necessary because there's always the question: can you always learn from the story I stay and a lesson is a very important lesson is that you just have to have an idea outside of the main means prescribed because the main means they are, of course, part of the war. propaganda they spread the war we are the good guys the others are the bad guys in black and white and you have to go in there and say okay so it's not so black and white it's not at all look at the iron contras and the cocaine trade and then the second point really that you say we don't want to resolve these conflicts with violence because if as soon as you realize, ah, okay, both groups have their legitimate concerns, so the Russians have a legitimate concern that they say yes, the Americans organized a coup, yes, and

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also has their concerns because they say yes, but the Russians took part of the country from us, that's also true, huh, so you'll see, uh-huh, in the end it really needs a negotiated solution that can't maybe we just say who will shoot our Russians in

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and

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in general until there is no one left alive that can only be in a negotiated solution and then the whole story has e that is on the table at the moment and that is really what makes me very, very sad is that we are not allowed to tell the whole story at the moment it is not being told in ARD Tagesschau the coup in 2014 there was still good documentation about ARD so it could be around 10 or about 11 am. m. a documentary comes out, it takes a quarter of an hour to find it, but since then it's not talked about anymore and it was easy for me to imagine that this photo of the good

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, the bad Russians, this photo is being portrayed at the moment and of course , that is also my opinion, a very extreme picture, because angry Russians here in Berlin, one might have to add that the Russians actually wanted the reunification of Germany. made it possible in the first place by withdrawing 500,000 soldiers from the GDR which was a great achievement for Kohl along with Gorbachev and Germany could only be reunited because as a German point of view you really have to be thankful to the Russians I think the reunification is a great thing.
I'm glad Germany has reunified, but I think it's really sad that the current government is supplying this stoplight government with weapons to

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. I would have found it much better if the government had been neutral. and he said okay we weren't running there Guns it's a complicated conflict we don't throw ourselves to one side or the other so mainstream criticism in your direction now will probably be heard here and then not in relation to the first thing I'm talking about, but to the second and how is poor

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supposed to defend itself if the people here don't, for example. he agrees that he would then be supplied with weapons, so that he would have a chance to take on the big target Russia, because that would mean that he would basically allow the entire population to be killed, which would then be passively allowed on the other hand, one would say, Daniela, why are you so friendly with Russia, why do you hear so little criticism in the direction of a Putin and you where you then have to be rewarded that you keep emphasizing that it is an illegal attack by the Russians in

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, anyway, you always get these things and we were also asked that in the questions etc., why don't you criticize the Russians?
Of course it was an illegal attack, but I miss the other side, so I can say that I have a lot of conferences about the war in

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and then I give a red card, so to speak, when I say exactly that and Putin clearly gets a red card. , so people who say I don't criticize Russia just don't listen to me, yes I say very clearly the invasion of Russia on February 24, 2022 is illegal Putin gets the red card I am also very clear in my books writing about the invasion of afghanistan in december 1979 that was breaking now also promised illegal red cards but when i handed out these red cards it was the mainstream media so to speak then i go into an in depth analysis and illuminate the whole background but That shouldn't mean I don't criticize Russia, I'm just saying that the US arms budget is 800 billion per year and Russia's is 60 billion euros so what the US is pumping into

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right now is as big as Russia's entire arms budget for the whole year and I say people look at the situation a little bit so the US bombed a lot more countries , of course they bombed my dear ones, they bombed Afghanistan, they bombed Kuwait, they bombed Lars, they bombed Cambodia, they bombed Vietnam, they bombed the karagor is bombing them has decidedly overthrown in 1973 exactly colonially, of course, they enslaved the Africans, they exterminated the Americans, so it really is the most violent country with money right now, the United States, and of course now you've managed to paint this picture in such a way that they say no to the Russians now they're the most violent country that's what I always say that you can only believe if you have forgotten the last 50 years and that is of course that now it is a success with yes because you keep talking about this war and I am just saying that it is u na shattered image and if my work as a historian of this Zerbe has returned properly then of course I will be criticized in the sense that yes Putin understands it and whatever but I shouldn't worry about it I only have to speak one language simple and then i'm happy to come to you today thank you very much but if you were to sit here and say now but we've sorted it out a bit for us ed

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would be left in the lurch if we don't hand over the weapons actually there are a lot more people in the media in favor of the arms handover than on the other side, so it's an extreme imbalance, what would you say to the people on this emotional tour now the people are dying there, the women, the children, no they can defend themselves and we would not be fulfilling our obligation if we did not deliver these weapons to this region, I would say that they have no idea of ​​the spiral of violence because if you have a school and then your student and he shoots the whole class then say anyway there are always massacres of the students here now to avoid that we still have to arm all the teachers and these teachers if they are really well armed then first shoot the students then I say it's an analysis that's an analysis you see a Kr that is, and you say yes, there is an injustice happening, that's true, but your problem is that you only see one injustice in the first place, namely the invasion of the Russians, that's an injustice, why Don't you see the other injustice?
The Americans carried out a coup in 2014, your analysis of the city is wrong and then you would tell them and what about these eight years Citizens got rid of 10,000, so

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, Russian-speaking

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, came. I didn't care at all, why didn't you want to give weapons to Dom? Bass there if you always want to turn in to small arms you can, thirdly if that's your tenet it will at some point get to the point where empty guns have to be in schools because you got hit there. and then i will explain to you at the end and i have to speak so clearly now you have no idea you have no idea and i am so sorry that we keep making the same mistakes and saying that we are going to eradicate violence if that was possible we would have done it today.
Yeah, it's not the reason Lanz invited me and didn't ask me because it's probably just an unpopular opinion right now. That would be my last question for today and we thank you. case, the fact that it took so much time for us after all this analysis of what Ernst Wolf for example was a guest here was also talked about, I also think he is a very respectable person, many people came from the Kern FM department , you also have to say again that I hadn't had it on screen before, but including Daniela as bad as they talk about calves that you have to be able to hold it too well on the other hand if you look at what's going on in the world right now it's coming out, so these globalization trends that you have there that didn't want to get to the forum yet come with the game, these super influential corporations in the digital world. such, asset management from Weingart to Blackrock, etc., does it make any sense today to talk about the Americans?
That is the question I ask myself when country politicians etc are under such massive influence from these superpowers. they mostly play in the background but for the public there's always just the political stage to look at but the hand playing in the background usually isn't Jens Spahn or Joe Biden or whatever in today's times in 2022 yet It does. It makes sense to say the Americans, you're right, the Americans is actually the wrong term, so it would be the US in the difference and the upper class the lower class by the way, at 100 million, it's very large, so 100 million in the USA they don't have 400 bucks on them the site and imagine 400 bucks I mean the massive accident with the car then you can adjust this 400 bucks and then you notice a big underclass that isn't the underclass that actually has an interest in becoming active withaccounts in the carago, but that's actually the lower class who then consume the shit to somehow spend the day out of this misery, I say angrily, and these, these, these words USA Nicaragua Afghanistan where we always take the nation state you are right they are accurate even if we say germany is supplying weapons no you are not supplying weapons or to

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and you also have no weapons

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ok ok germany it is actually common in history to talk about nation states but i agree with them that we should actually be here be more precise and say that it is a minority in Germany that decided that weapons should circulate in the

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It is a minority in the USA that decided to arm the contras in Nicaragua, until congress american was against it but the series did it anyway so yeah you should be more specific here with the words you are right and i still have to say the people in the background when they it deals with the arms industry and so on, they are usually not politicians at all but do the lobbying work and of course the US is connected to NATO Germany offered to NATO etc. , you'll notice it doesn't sound like that because they used to accuse me of anti-Americanism, for example, I don't think it's the US at all anymore, but there are many, many interest groups that even work together internationally, sometimes even to a certain degree. , but sometimes they even sell each other as enemy images that were partly discovered again and so on When we are dealing with the fact that the world is getting closer, it has become a global stick.
I think the world has gotten so small since digitization that these categories of countries make less and less sense and they're also working towards it with all of this. globalization etc and then get rid of all of that at some point and further centralize power, that would be my analysis of the whole thing, so it shouldn't sound like an attack on the US, but on the US. .as a nation as a visually visible execution. of the military body has, in my opinion, deep down it's still people and, above all, a very, very powerful faction and so on that I just mentioned, some with the asset managers and the private companies and people who earn a lot money just selling weapons to the world i think you just have to deal with an entity much more powerful than anything that ever existed could be national instead and i have this quality so kinky go back to the delta we didn't today it works the first step is when you analyze that US imperialism is first at the level of conflict and then you can take a look and say yes, wait a minute, who really benefits from the conflicts over the sale of arms and that is actually, as you say, a minority if these people who have the shares and who make the investments if they had to get involved in the conflict. yes, then that would be right away.
The war was absolutely over in the short time we had today. We almost tried to tell world history in quotes. It is not possible that it was noticed outside. We tried to rush a bit because we are not Russian, but because we were only two hours from now, it is now much easier to share information with each other accordingly. In any case, please see the much more detailed presentations, especially from the Netherlands, which will then also be they refer to a special area, either Iran then, for example, 53 FDP or

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Russia now, that's why it's here in Berlin. for that reason there is a conference but of course we would be very happy if you have time again next time in berlin have a conference coming there is a lot to tell you can't pack in two hours but we did pretty well just me another time yesterday i watched with my son around the world for 80 days it's mostly two hours around the world with disabled and daniela exactly yes and a lot of wonderful questions i also had a lot of questions about the kosovo conflicts in kosovo he gets something that played nationally but omg That's what we'll do next time I'll tell you no matter what the meteorologist says this

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was also from Granada thank you very much daniela d thank you for coming.
Can you briefly? Do you still have something you would like to keep? What will come from you in the future is in the project area or something planned. No, I just want to thank you two for the invite. I find it very very exciting I feel happy to be here of course I didn't think it was right for the listeners that I heard karaoke about it even in Afghanistan or in the

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and then again in the US and then we were in Vietnam and then we still have the NATO secret agents which was maybe a bit of a big package overall but on the other hand it turned out that way we don't have a script either we just said we're going to talk about the world. politics and we did that and um just to wrap up i really want to say we all belong to the human family all 8 billion and we shouldn't kill each other that's actually the most important thing that happened very well no script no support
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