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140: Duchess Meghan can't say the B Word, The Crown damns the Windsors in unexpected ways, Musk...

Nov 13, 2022

140: Duchess Meghan can't say the B Word, The Crown damns the Windsors in unexpected ways, Musk...

thanks for listening to celebrity gossip brought to you by celebrity.com this week we talk about the royals and elon

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we wrap up with our weekly teacher the comments of the week the stories photos and tweets we talk about can be found on celebrity. com on episode 140. hi i'm katie the founder and editor of celebrity.com and i write about a celebrity and i'm chandra i'm the head writer for celebrity and i read as kaiser so we're going to be gone for the next two weeks because we have the Thanksgiving in the US and we'll have our next episode on December 3rd and then we'll have like two more episodes after that and we'll take two weeks off for Christmas and New Years and stuff yeah what are you going to do to the Thanksgiving?
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I'll probably take my mom to one of the restaurants that's open. There is one that has a really good Thanksgiving buffet. Oh well, and it's just the two of us. It's kind of stupid that you like it. cook a big Thanksgiving party for two people so yeah I h hey I have to figure out what my son is doing and if he's going to his girlfriend's house or not but if not I'm going to do a few things here. I won't make a ton of food, I'll just do the basics. and some garnishes and stuff, yeah I mean Thanksgiving I feel like it's the only holiday you can make it up like you know if you make turkey you can make any kind of garnishes you want.
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I think so, you don't have to. traditional but I'll just do like two or three things like I like mashed potatoes I like stuffing I like canned cranberry and salsa and stuff like that my favorite is corn oh what do you like in it we do it southern style so we you boil it in cream water and i eat a little bit of half and half to give it a creamy flavor and then you add a little sugar in there oh yeah i heard i think i ate it though its good i like crispy onions the green beans aren't my favorite but I'll eat them y'know with the creamy green beans or the crispy onions oh yeah I like you eh green beans those are good so I'll do a few things we'll see what happens ok let's talk about the Royals, I guess so, I mean, that's all I've done since the

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came out, is look at the ground, okay? i haven't seen it yet i feel like i'm slacking off at my job but that's how i al

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feel when i compare myself to you so i try not to do it so well i'm only halfway there.
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I haven't finished the whole series yet, okay, that's four already. I just finished number five, which is about Jonathan's goofy interview of Charles, where he finally comes out and says you know it's been Camilla the whole time. spoiler for some people so today thursday when we recorded that you wrote about that third episode called MooMoo because it is about Muhammad al-fayed and his connection to the Royals and he is the former owner of Herod's he was the father, the boyfriend of the Princess Diana, Dodi Lafayette, who was also killed in the car accident with her I was really s surprised because you know season five has been so fleshed out, oh you know everything about the '90s like there's so much material in there.
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I find it fascinating that Peter Morgan spent an entire episode introducing the alpha Ed family and creating that so that later and in the story, when you know Dodie and Muhammad Fayed reappear, it's not like they came out of The Ether, they've been there. all along on the periphery of the Royals' existence, Muhammad al-fayed has been trying to buy his way in. British society and he is fascinated by British royalty and in particular because as a child he saw the Duke of Windsor and Wallace Simpson. They visited Alexandria from Egypt, which is where he lived, and he was fascinated by it, so yeah, that led to a lifelong desire.
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Cozy up to the

Windsors

in particular and with his connections and wealth if he was a white man he would have been able to do that yes I think so and as I understand British Society is j they were full of tight asses they were never going to allow that no one buys his way in society but like they treat him abominably even if they aren't enthusiastic oh this Egyptian guy has bought Herods and wants to host. Actual events or he's inviting us here he's inviting us there there's a polite way of saying no we don't really like that but we'll throw you a bone you know we'll be polite to you in society we'll invite you you know bigger gatherings don't they did, they just wanted to shut it down completely, they didn't want to be associated with him at all and he was doing it in a very polite way, you know, sending out a formal invitation and you know. patronizing some horse thing the queen loved ok the queen refused to talk to him or sit with him or anything and she sent Diana there to be nice and Diana you know she absolutely loved him oh, I bet it's a cute scene, yes it is and Elizabeth Debicki is doing a fantastic job of that with j.
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It just shows Diana's light touch and her ability to just turn on the charm and everyone feels special in her presence so this episode is also about Al Fayed's relationship with a man named Sydney Johnson. Wallace Simpson died, his wife just fired Johnson properly and there's some debate as to how she fired him or you know what exactly happened there but basically he didn't last long in the house after the duke died so he was just hanging around Paris taking odd jobs when he, you know, ran into the elfayeds and apparently Dodie had hired Sydney Johnson to work at the Ritz because Muhammad Al fiad had just bought the Ritz and the way the story plays out in the

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is that Muhammad al-fayed wanted Sydney Johnson fired. because he didn't want a black man acting as a waiter or a janitor at the hotel and then Dodie tells his father that he actually worked for the Duke of Windsor for decades and all. dden Muhammad is fascinated and you said that this episode was really damning for the

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and that is because of the way they treated both the valet and Alfred well, to be fair I think the Duke of Windsor as portrayed , is the Duke of Windsor. he treated Sydney Johnson very well, yes, he treated him like a son, the son he never had, or you know, pick your poison, they treated him very well for the moment and for his place in society.
I think the point was that Wallace didn't deal with it. very well, but that is neither here nor there. I think it was so damning for the Royals because Peter Morgan felt it was an important enough story to tell the alpha Ed story along with the Royal story and set that up as the alphayes didn't just come out of nowhere, when Diana died, they didn't that's when his story began and to show this young man who saw the duke of windsor and that spurred his lifelong fascination with royals and royals treated him like and they're so selfish and there's like part of that where Muhammad Alpha advised the old french heritage of the Duke of Windsor and i hated what the queen did i hated what the queen did mom in that situation it's horrible but you'll see it in the episode ok ok so this week when Charles and camilla they were visiting york they were on a two day trip to york a 23 year old man in the crowd threw eggs at them and he lost them it was the day the

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came out oh i didn't know i didn't put that j together it was like the

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dropped on netflix and then a few hours later there was egg thrown and he yelled this country was built on the blood of slaves and there are pictures and videos of him yeah and he's right and he's right about yes our country I also told you that you know if that had happened here and someone had egged Joe Biden and talked about the slavery built in this country, Joe Biden would have said you're right about Kiddo would have, yes he would have. . he stopped and talked to the kid well i think the secret service would have shot him but yeah he would have been shot down or shot or something.
Yeah, I don't think he was in that situation because we have better security for our leaders. five eggs before they moved charles yeah they seemed like they had no idea what was going on and were like whatever and charles even looked on the ground at this cracked egg like it just happened and no one had moved it yet so there's pictures of charles the day before looking at tons of eggs on a table for some reason so it's like you write it's an omen or that's where the guy got the idea oh he could throw eggs remember when the guy was walking putting pies in people's faces and got Bill Gates and stuff.
I vaguely remember that was years ago, right? Yeah, I'm old and you remember when that guy threw a shoe at Bush. doing some kind of press conference in baghdad he was someone with journalist credentials and he threw a shoe at bush bush he dodged it he deserved it i remember yes bush had some good coke instincts well he exercised a lot he's a little angry but he exercised a lot so the guy was charged with a public order offense or something and I hope he doesn't go to jail or anything. I mean he'll probably have to do a public service or something.
I feel bad for the rioters and egg throwers being arrested. like the guy who called Andrew a pervert or whatever during the funeral procession, yeah that guy got busted in a nice way. I never heard that term until Andrew had knots. I don't think he called it enough. He called him a dirty old man, that's what he was. exact completely accurate so Kate we saw Kate do some events this week she went to her Rugby World Cup sponsorship over the weekend and then visited the Manor Children's Center column outside London where she spoke to staff about the motherhood Mental health and Children's Center visit was also the day the corona came out what a coincidence yes they are terrified there at Buckingham Palace they are just terrified even before they sent Kate to do something for love God and we hear she is doing a second Christmas Carol concert with ITV as the last one was a hit it wasn't it had terrible ratings and everyone was so disappointed it went on so long she played the piano and then she didn't even did. live, she had to pre-record it, she probably did like so many takes to get what they had.
I'll say it again because my stupid device turned off and she told me I received a package ok since the last one was so successful I don't want to leave it there because my device beeped. Lots of crap from Amazon. I have a side note. Do you order? anything from nuts.com no, could you ask yes? I ordered a few things for you from nest.com but and I order from there once in a while they have really good prices on cashews. I loved that caramel cheese popcorn. I'll send you a few more for Christmas maybe ok sure let's go ahead and use me to send me all these you know promotional emails like we're 10 off we'll give you a free pecan pie and the pecan pie got me so i was good im going to order i ordered like 88 from nuts.com well they probably tell you you get free shipping if you order this or you get this deal if you order this so that puts me on online shopping too but i can't believe how much money i spent on nuts.com.
I have a friend from AAA and she works in a gift shop in the mall, just and she was going to pick up a ship and I was like I could. I'm not going but I'll come visit you at the mall while you work if you want she says yes come in she sold me 6 0 dollars worth of her she works on commission she gave me her discount and all good that's good yeah yeah that was really good me I was like you don't have to do that but she's like oh you could get this and this and I was like oh you're right and I just bought so much stuff oh my god I haven't even started Christmas shopping anyway this is kind of a big digression but we digress anyway so Mike Tindall who is the daughter of Princess Anne Sarah Phillips husband who is on the reality show I'm a celeb get me out of here and is filming now in Australia and is airing in the UK.
There has been no official response from the royal family, but sources have told the press that Tyndall did not clear it up with King. Charles, you know, and then it's kind of undignified, so I didn't clear it up with King Charles, I understand I understand why the palace is making such a big deal out of it and I also understand why Tyndall didn't really care. it's like he's not in my tyndal I'm on the side, but he shouldn't have to go through the palace because he's himself, he doesn't have a title, he doesn't get public funding, you know he shouldn't have to consult King Charles for that guy anyway. so you're saying the same rules should apply to him that we want to apply to Megan and Harry, like don't bother him, don't bother Megan and Harry, don't bother him, yeah I get it, like Megan Harry and Mike Tindall. they have one thing in common: they're not full-time royals, they're not working royals, so the same rule should apply to them, and yes, I get that I think what Tyndall is doing is infinitely worse than what Megan and Harry are doing. because it's so depressed in Market because it's so cheesy and cheap andthat's the palace's problem too it's not that Mike didn't ask for permission it's that he's doing this really cheesy reality show and he's getting paid to gossip about the Royals and they're paying him a relatively paltry amount to sell his relatives it's like only 100 Grand or something like that, probably around 200 Grand, but the shade will last a lifetime. you know 100 million dollars like Megan and Harry did yeah well they're doing it really in a fancy market yeah like some stupid reality competition show where he has to eat both testicles so he's like an alcoholic gamer extra ugly and im editorializing with alcoholism but i assume you mean it doesnt get anyone one but come on and then mike admitted on the show that he got drunk at lunch on his first date with Zara like at lunch and Zara also did it as if they got drunk together. and he realized they would make a good couple because they both like to drink a lot on a disgusting lunch date and there are also pictures of him growing up as a female crew member on the set of I'm a celeb get me out of here and she's out of balance he's grabbing her s chest from behind it's very obvious it's sexual harassment you have sexual assault yes assault yes and it looks like an attack because that's like she doesn't realize he's coming after her he picks her up off the ground and he's groping boobs it's horrible i felt so bad for that poor young lady i know so i could get kicked off the show but not for violating covid protocols by touching her yeah can i say i was a bit Surprised that post came? so many comments i dont al

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think of tyndalls as big comment generators most people are how they live and let live with them i guess the pictures of him sexually assaulting that young lady really struck a nerve because they were so obvious it was such an obvious attack against her, yeah, it was disgusting, yeah, I mean, it paints the royal family more than anything Megan and Harry can do, yeah, and Andrew too, Andrew, being this rampant sexual predator, pedophile's best friend. ile and a human trafficker who is the Royal Family yeah Harry and Megan are making you meet cute podcasts where Megan doesn't even say the

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you know she's so adorable so I was listening to that and it seems to push me she llama is the b

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and she doesn't want to claim it like but at least to her credit she interviewed other women who use it regularly and talk about it yeah i found it a little too precious like and like you said a little too prissy women have claimed the

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I think many women believe that we have reclaimed that

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. I mean, it's the name of my business. a memory Don't trust the B in apartment 20 you know they couldn't use the

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on TV back then it was a more loaded

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back then yeah but I al

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felt like you knew it was moving in the direction of normalize and women feel empowered by it like you eh im mean yeah i like i like the sketch you posted from the sketch show Like Lady yeah i love it it was one of her first sketches it was one of her first few episodes and I like to nail it like that with Angela Bassett, it was awesome running a little too close to home for me because I get up before my boyfriend to do my makeup.
I do that. I totally do and take my cunning codon. wearing comfy shoes wedges i wish i could be bad and wear flats yeah oh wanna be able to breathe yeah this wasn't my favorite podcast of megan or hers ya know episode no but i mean even though i love that. She interviewed Robin thiede I love Robin thieves so much she created the black lady sketch show and yes Issa Ray is an executive producer of that show so I like that she had both Issa and Robin thiede on archetypes. I think she's cool, yeah, and Megan knows that she's prissy and she admits it. yeah, so there's something to say that and also to understand the other side.
I would love for him to have Quinta Brunson. I think it would be amazing because Quinta was on the first season of the Black Lady Sketch Show. That was when I saw Quinta for the first time. She could depend. you know how many episodes left there has to be a couple episodes i think two or three maybe yeah maybe she'll have it or maybe she'll compare next season hopefully she'll come out with another season you know in a bit timely because i feel like there are more tropes to unpack i said this on twitter the other day and i hope she exotic to biracial women oh yeah that's nice it might be too close to home for her but she does it all the time speak. about it with Mariah Carey you know she owns things that have happened to her yeah and I think she would dissect the exotic very well so we got a picture of her with the I voted sticker and a cute where to vote post that she posted. that to the archbold website so it looks like they are only posting there very occasionally instead of using social media yeah and she was wearing an archu well hat baseball cap yeah and everyone wants to get one now I don't know where we can buy one.
Do you know that we would all use it? Yes. I would wear a T-shirt. I would buy it for my friend April. She loves Megan and me so we also have a story from Christopher Anderson's new book called The King The Life of. Charles III and you reported on this Anderson said Charles told a friend he didn't know Megan was biracial when he met her which I think he did a lot of people said oh sure I'm sure my six did a background check. about Megan maybe they did maybe they didn't. I think if Charles knew her coldly and didn't know much about her, he probably wouldn't have realized that he was biracial.
I like how you wrote about your own experience in that post as well because I bet Megan gets the exact same thing as me people call you stupid all the time well I don't even think I'm stupid half the time I think that they're just people guessing and trying to figure it out. are you greek Are you Hispanic? We talked about the Royals on zoom and this is Karen Zakia Lisa and Amira. I'm seriously laughing at all this Mike Tindall celebrity. He is so disgusting that he really looked like an ogre Knight. Literally yes, but not in a fun way. who is he and what's so funny well not funny is you know the fact that he's like oh we got drunk on our first date he tells me everything you need to know about that family that's all they know is just getting drunk well you know party from Zara she is probably one of the people it would be more fun to hang out with, yes she is definitely partying, yes I wonder what she thought when she saw those photos like he was acting again.
I was laughing out loud because Charles got eggs today, that woman. next to him like she didn't even do anything like she was looking around like they're not supposed to like her if she's security I don't know she had a little hat like a little like Bobby she was a police officer yeah she I had one. of those little hats on so I figured she was too and if she wasn't I mean it was funny but what if it wasn't an egg like she didn't really jump to conclusions there and go for it? like looking around she was like oh look that egg is on the floor so she didn't hit it she's like ma'am i think you're supposed to be like taylor almost more than one right?
It was a few eggs. Well yeah, that's the point. I love the image of them looking at the eggs. It is an omen. I thought someone had the idea at the time, but you know Charles was furious. You know he was hot. Oh, he wants that person in the tower. Well, I saw later that they want them in the tower. Has anyone had a good look at Camilla? Does she look li? ke has dried up because I know the kaiser theory is that she went somewhere to dry out when she was in India maybe it was a dry retreat so we saw Camilla again after she was gone for how many weeks when she was in the India, yeah, plus more than two weeks, technically, she was only in India for 10 days, but like she had some spare time before and after the India trip and yeah, maybe she was running long because she couldn't see, yeah like you said she didn't look different yeah she looks the same and oh back to the

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olivia williams she's brilliant as camilla like she's really channeling camilla they have a great wig looks like olivia hasn't moisturized in a year looks dry looks dry and wrinkled looks like a suburban Mum and you're like really the prince of wales is yeah but that's what really happened yeah he fell for her personality and i gotta give a shout out too no is that nobody cares, but the actress who plays the pr incessantly Anne this season her name is Claudia Harrison She looks exactly like Anne she's crazy she's perfectly cast as Anne and that just emphasizes how poorly cast Dominic West was but she's doing some hilarious interviews where she's half praise, half shadow, you've been covering those we've got some good ones coming out it was like no i swear to god i love prince charles you know we're the best of friends no he doesn't say that but it's like i admire him respect him and he has these huge sausage figures and is al

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touching them. not bad charles has giant sausage fingers ok let's talk about elon

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and twitter circle so last week we talked about the fact that he bought twitter after borrowing a ton of money and now he took advantage to help and this week he fired like thousands of twitter employees and he violated the labor law by doing that so he was sued for it he endorsed the republican congress he tweeted a meme with a nazi soldier i mean the meme was about something else but he knew what it was. doing and the former Twitter exec was saying he has no idea what it is you know Elon has no idea what he's doing and people are worried about it and want to make Twitter paid supposedly I mean he was reading dustin coverage on straw almost all the posts he's been making on twitter it's ridiculous that

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has been doing yeah so it seems like he posts a lot and he's changed the logarithm so his posts show up in many different sources even if you do not do.
Follow him, oh really, and even if you muted or blocked him, posts from him are showing up for people. That's so vain, isn't it? so he changed the checkmark system in like three hours he put in the second checkmark and then he said I'm killing it three hours later he said official and I was like what does that mean official vs blue checkmark? in people magazine tweet ter feed he was like ok there's like an extra layer of check mark and then he got rid of it a few hours later yeah and today as we recorded he sent an email to the remaining employees of Twitter like the half dozen that are still there in San Francisco sent an email saying oh our situation is so bad guys you know we are losing money hand over hand we have to find some way to make money and oh he says we are too reliant on advertisers yes because you alienated everyone although apparently he is trying to rehire some people oh and he keeps announcing that we are rolling out this new feature and the feature has been in the works for months before he bought Twitter, so once again it's like taking credit. for other people's work just like he did with Tesla yeah Twitter circle down the drain I hope someone else buys it you know soon if Jeff Bezos waits a few months he can probably buy Twitter for like 50 million dollars that will be my gue is like average Powerball money like every week yeah basically I mean if I was somehow invested in Elon

Musk

if I was a Tesla investor if I was a Twitter investor I would know that the Saudis are as heavily involved in this Twitter buyout as I would be.
Leaving Horseheads in Elon's bed is a horrible situation for them, yes, yes, but then again, what did you expect by going all-in on Elon

Musk

? I don't think they could say no to the offer though because I was offering a lot of money and they wanted to collect ok let's move on to comments of the week ok my comment of the week ok this was one of the first comments. in the post and had a lot of responses and wanted to address it so a royal historian was talking once again about Prince Philip and natural Penelope who also features quite a bit in the

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that's why we're getting so many articles about their relationship and in general it has been established that they had a decades-long affair and that you know she was taking care of him in his later years.
Bay Tampa Bay wrote until you see a certified DNA test. I believe and will continue to believe that Penelope is natural. Philip's daughter, this explains and is the only viable explanation for why Queen Elizabeth had no problem with the closeness of this 32-year relationship. I don't think so, no, I think she's very American of her to assume the queen wouldn't have a problem. the only way the queen wouldn't have a problem with that if it was her daughter that's very true i think the queen really liked natural penelope and i think natural she knew the rules she was very discreet she cared a lot about philip and I think he cared a lot a lotabout the queen and the royal family in general, so she obeyed the rules and that was her reward: everyone protected her, but yes, I think Penelope and Philip were lovers, yes, me too, at least for that.
I first part of their relationship, I think in the last few years, I think it was more about camaraderie and friendship, I think because he was too old to do anything, I don't want to think about it, but yeah, she took care of him, she lived in what they call timber farm yeah timber farm with him yeah he'd been driving his ass stop it oh filth she should have taken it remember when she drove her Land Rover bad she was like an old man like driving it like aha, I can't. catch me yeah so my comment of the week is from avicii on the post about johnny depp walking on rihanna's savage xfinity and they wrote there are no good billionaires not even riri it was so disappointing yeah really mackenzie scott is a nice billionaire but she got the money in her divorce so she earned it she was with him for decades and helped build amazon exactly he earned every penny so yeah she's good but yeah he was utterly disappointed in Rihanna and It's not even like the Chris Brown factor of how you could sign an abuser it's like Rihanna was supposed to be way cooler than she was supposed to be way more up to date with the headlines she should know better about gossip about celebrities and what's really going on in Hollywood, we were talking on Zoom about this.
I didn't extract it, but Amira in particular remembered how messy Rihanna used to be on Twitter, yes I remember the Karrueche Tron, yes how much she fought with people. Tron too I mean the post he made with the rice sack and hoop earrings rice cakes and earrings yeah I think that was Infamous it haunts me yeah that's you to be shady I guess I still do It is, yes, it is better to hide that. Yes, she was also friends with Katy Perry for a long time. They were talking about it on Zoom and the women on Zoom know a lot more about celebrity gossip, even though it's my job.
I forget about the little gossip. Side stories like that, yeah I didn't remember Rihanna and Katy Perry being very close, but they came up around the same time, yeah they share a lot of the same songwriters, listen to a lot of those podcasts. i eat beyond the blinds and stuff too oh i dont have time for that i dont dig into that though it feels like it works well thanks for listening thanks thanks for listening celebrity podcast please rate the review and subscribe. wherever you listen if you like us please turn off your ad blocker when you visit our site you can text or leave us a voicemail at 434-218-3219 our music is by AA Alto maiden and Via premium beat and sound by image thanks again thanks you
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