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Raketeneinschlag auf Nato-Gebiet: Artikel 4 des Bündnis-Vertrags schon ausgelöst | Ukraine-Krieg

Nov 16, 2022

Raketeneinschlag auf Nato-Gebiet: Artikel 4 des Bündnis-Vertrags schon ausgelöst | Ukraine-Krieg

Johannes, please explain to our viewers again why it is so sensitive that these missiles landed in Poland at the beginning of the show, but we have already talked briefly about it. Poland is part of NATO and if you attack a NATO country, you attack all of NATO. countries, that is exactly the NATO principle that makes the military alliance so powerful and that is exactly what has happened here now, yes, and if you consider the extremely unlikely possibility that it was Ukrainian missiles that somehow they blew up ukrainian air defense badly if really, really, really unlikely and ruling out the possibility then it's almost certainly russian missiles hitting

nato

territory here in poland and

nato

can't help but react it doesn't have to militarily, but it has to do it one way or the other does something different and we can already see the Poles coming together in their security cabinet because high-ranking rounds where officials talk about what we do our country has been attacked and the NATO can and will do the same if it does it very officially and so characterizes it as this famous alliance case that hangs regardless of whether it actually has to say that Was it a targeted attack or if the Russians could come off this case and say it was a big mistake, but even if it was an accident, it's a fabulous escalation in the conflict. because the conflict has so far been limited to

Ukraine

and everyone involved has always made sure that it remains limited to

Ukraine

and now it's not, so it's definitely a new stage and there's a really big danger. it can be said that putin is completely uninhibited here world war 3 if not by chance now and that is also confirmed to come if we are still avoiding a military escalation yes i think before the west escalates militarily it will go through all the other options and will try to act with all the other options.
raketeneinschlag auf nato gebiet artikel 4 des b ndnis vertrags schon ausgel st ukraine krieg
I think that's basically correct because nobody wants the third world. war but it's at the same time It's a very difficult game and a very difficult tactic because the Russians will go as far as you let them go, they have proven this time and time again in the past. he is detained and has already been detained a couple of times, among other things, for the really heroic use of the Ukrainian army, for among other things, for the massive arms deliveries, especially by the Americans, and the massive support of the services secrets. from

Ukraine

, especially by the Americans and the British, if they stopped it, it really stopped, but if you don't stop it, it will always be active and maybe we will. not tonight, but possibly the impact in Poland may be a small attempt to prove what happens because when the writer and russenkeller Wladimir Kaminer is now connected with us, Mr.
raketeneinschlag auf nato gebiet artikel 4 des b ndnis vertrags schon ausgel st ukraine krieg
Kaminer, thank you very much for taking the time at this hour. How do you rate the rockets very very bad news about Poland at the wrong time wrong country and wrong rocket I mean of course no country in the world wants to get hit by a rocket but Poland is really the worst thing that could happen on this course of the war, the Poles will never do it to the Russians even if it was a mistake, that means the same thing, that the Russians no longer have accurate weapons, they say that they only attacked the Ukrainian power plants with accurate weapons, now that we only have rockets that they can fly anywhere this war is going on and it will always come close to us that is very bad so the news to you is that the next level of escalation is above all this uncontrollable escalation i think right now not even the russian leadership nor the Ukrainian army can keep this war under control, this is an uncontrollable escalation that is not determined. on both sides is the danger that we are all getting into now they have already received reactions from Russia because I have only read in the news that the Russians cancel these rockets then they say that the Russians are not there at all but we know from experience that everything what the Russians are currently spreading is sadly false, they themselves are writers in their eyes, does this story still have a chance to end well in the end?
raketeneinschlag auf nato gebiet artikel 4 des b ndnis vertrags schon ausgel st ukraine krieg
Yes, I am optimistic, so we have no choice but to wait. that we still can So who probably wanted to ban this war, the Russians with d This unprecedented greeting now makes up for their defeat in person, they did not succeed, so now the public, diplomacy, has to raise its voice very loudly and simply to to know where we are, where we can still contain this escalation, so this the war for you must be contained now it must be prevented from spreading further in Europe thank you sir walk and please remain optimistic thank you for staying with me in the studio I found it very interesting just he said even if it's a coincidence then that would mean the russians don't have any more precision weapons then what would that mean yes it is known that Russia is slowly running out of precision weapons they only had a limited number of them and now they are also using old Soviet missiles or just the less accurate Russian missiles occasionally fail because the Russians have the bills. ngen their modern high precision missiles have already been used in attacks on civilian infrastructure in power plants these attacks that Wladimir Kaminer has talked about now are not new they have been around for a few months russia has a very specific target before the start of the winter

Ukraine

really lives to hit the civilian population and that's why a lot of rockets are directed towards it Kaminer also said that Russia denies any involvement maybe he can tell us again what exactly was said there yes the Kremlin is now talking about a targeted provocation of the Poles you may have to recall what the Krimml has already described as a targeted provocation, for example the war crimes in Butcher near Kiev where hundreds of Ukrainian civilians were killed by Russian soldiers Mariopols is also said to have been a provocation targeting of

Ukraine

, the shelling of the occupied Ukrainian nuclear power plant, which is also said to be a targeted provocation of the Ukrainians, which means that when the Kremlin talks about a targeted provocation, it usually says that the Kremlin committed this provocation, what exactly is happening now just so that we all understand again on the political side, including in the West, what exactly is happening right now in this menu at this time at this time numerous international consultations governments have already made statements I just saw that the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has expressed himself and demands an investigation of the impacts as far as I have seen it in the a short time now he talks not directly about Russian missiles that also fits Orban who is basically much more positive towards Russia than the rest of the West, maybe Orban also belongs to nothing m Speaking to the West, but he also said that Russia had damaged an oil pipeline towards your country and that is just one of many statements tonight that other governments condemn the attacks on

Ukraine

and all together have a great interest in fully investigating the rocket strikes in Poland and then initiating the appropriate countermeasures, we spent a lot of time tonight talking about what kind of countermeasures these are if of course it can be an investigation first and of course of course it can be a strong statement of course it can be a verbal statement of course gestures it can be military guests at the Russian border showing the Russian government in no uncertain terms so far and no further it can be new arms shipments to

Ukraine

it may be a no-fly zone and it may ultimately be an attack or a counter-attack if that turns out to be the case you The Russians deliberately and deliberately murdered two people in Poland what is the least you would ask of politicians ?
raketeneinschlag auf nato gebiet artikel 4 des b ndnis vertrags schon ausgel st ukraine krieg
Therefore, I personally think that politicians have to react very sharply here because the Russian government and the Russian military have Yes, it has already been shown several times that they do not give a damn about the lives of civilians, even from completely unrelated states. We can all be killed if we fly in a plane and get close to the Russian air defense system. That has happened before and that is why it is very important which makes it unequivocally clear that the West will not tolerate this, even if it is by mistake, and there is a whole range of instruments.
raketeneinschlag auf nato gebiet artikel 4 des b ndnis vertrags schon ausgel st ukraine krieg
We just talked about what the West can do if it is an attack directed against NATO territory, then the West must also make it react militarily in all appropriate ways, that doesn't mean Moscow is being bombed or St. Petersburg, but it means, for example, that the West could show that the corresponding missile batteries of the Russians can also be disabled very quickly, thus eliminating the danger to NATO countries, that only if it is really a targeted attack should act
raketeneinschlag auf nato gebiet artikel 4 des b ndnis vertrags schon ausgel st ukraine krieg
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