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Was passiert, wenn die Ukraine gewinnt? Oder Russland?

Sep 10, 2022

Was passiert, wenn die Ukraine gewinnt? Oder Russland?

February 24, 2022 has changed a lot, of course, in the lives of the Ukrainians, their country was attacked by Russia, but also in our lives, we in Germany and in Europe are feeling the consequences of the war in

Ukraine

more and more at some point, that's clear, this war will be be over but how will it end with a win of

Ukraine

with a win of Russia with a draw and what happens in the cases if Russia wins if

Ukraine

wins that's exactly what the war in

Ukraine

is about now it lasts longer now more than five months in the east of the country for more than eight years and it has produced thousands of victims around 30,000 civilians are said to have died so far and of course soldiers have also fallen on both sides official information from Russia is not available, at least not for the moment the last official figures are from March 2022 when there were around 1,000 soldiers in the meantime t one of 10,000 to 20 maybe even 30,000 dead Russian soldiers from

Ukraine

there are said to be 10,000 to 20,000 dead in addition destroyed cities broken regions a country on the brink about a quarter of all Ukrainian women in particular and

Ukraine

is on the run most of them in other European countries it is a war that is dragging on a war that at least Russia thought was very over that turned out to be wrong

Ukraine

braced itself for a long fight from the start and that fight lingers on here to this day In this graphic you can see the current course of the front and you can see that while
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Russia attacked almost all parts of the

Ukraine

at the beginning of the war, including the capital Kyiv, the focus is now mainly on the east and south of the country on Don Bass Johannes and Don now and on a kind of tongue of land between Russia and the Crimean Peninsula on the Black Sea here Russian troops are always moving forward, occupying areas of land but are also always being pushed back one has to say that this is developing into a kind of trench warfare fought again but have hardly advanced in each case it is an unbelievable battle of material a battle in which 100 maybe 200 soldiers are killed every day nobody knows for sure at the moment and experts say the exact condition could ensure that the war in

Ukraine

spreads will drag on for quite a while because while the

Ukraine

has weapons and material from the best that is supplied again and again and has a great morale about the will to fight you want to defend yourself you want to defend your country Russia also has a lot of weapons many soldiers and also loads of money among others m through gas exports to Europe also to Germany, that means that weapons don’t run out that quickly, neither do soldiers and the will to fight doesn’t run out that quickly either in

Ukraine

because they want to keep the country independent and in Russia because it is decreed from above that means the fighting continues every day every day people die every day people are injured every day cities are destroyed against the made
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uninhabitable and all this can only end if one of the two sides loses or wins depending on the perspective or if there is a So if there is no winner there is no loser and an agreement is reached at the negotiating table, but this solution is currently a long way off, it is being negotiated again and again, but there were no major breakthroughs, so let's take a look at what would happen if that

Ukraine

wins or what if Russia wins and we start with

Ukraine

so what if

Ukraine

went to war winnt to answer this question we first have to define what would such a victory mean how would such a victory look like from a Ukrainian perspective and there are mainly two variants a big victory and a small victory the big victory would be the situation before In 2014, before Russia interfered in the east of the country in the Don Bass and before Russia annexed Crimea, before Russia invaded there and had a referendum carried out there that was illegal under international law and then Crimea was annexed to the Russian Federation, so all Ukrainian territories would too actually come back under

Ukraine

's administration the second is a victory which means you would restore the situation before the Russian attack before 24 February 2022 Russia would still have influence on Crimea and influence in the east of the country but all other parts of the country would be under Ukrainian control again yes and welc he of these two variants is more realistic, one has to say the most desirable from the
was passiert wenn die ukraine gewinnt oder russland
Ukrainian point of view is certainly the first variant, but probably even the Ukrainian government knows that that would be rather unlikely for this you would not only have to defend yourself, you would also have to actively attack, especially in Crimea and Crimea is now a fortress, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is stationed there and Russia will under no circumstances allow Crimea to be recaptured by

Ukraine

, so they would defend themselves extremely and also launch counterattacks accordingly,

Ukraine

alone would probably never make it to Crimea It looks similar in parts of the Don Bass, but it has to be said that most parts are still under Ukrainian control. So you could try to push back the two cities on Luchans and Dong Russia and bring the rest back under Ukrainian control and that brings us to the smaller variant with a smaller victory that is definitely within the realm of possibility the

Ukraine

is constantly supplied with weapons and other things of the best quality, for example also with secret service findings and was able to push back the attack on the entire country and to locate in the east and in the south of the country, as we briefly mentioned earlier,

Ukraine

should be able to hold Russia back permanently and inflict Russia with such heavy losses that Vladimir Putin, the Russian President, will say at some point, okay, we’ve had enough, we’re withdrawing, so he will he would probably never say that, but he would go to the negotiating table and say okay, we
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will keep the status quo for now, but that would mean a permanent danger for

Ukraine

, although you would have won at first, you would have been incredibly threatened, the ukrainian president warladimir zelenski saw it once compared to the situation in Israel en Israel has been repeatedly attacked over the past few decades by countries from the region that have recognized the country's right to exist, and even now there are countries such as Iran that say Israel should disappear from the map, at least demanding large parts of the political landscape in Iran That and exactly the same thing could happen to

Ukraine

with Russia, although Russia would have won first, but always as a neighbor, always a threat to the West, that would mean that

Ukraine

had to be firmly integrated into a security system, and EU membership was already in prospect but there would also be no way around making

Ukraine

a NATO member state. The West would also have to be permanently present, for example with its own troops, with troops from the USA stationed in

Ukraine

with various other weapon systems in

Ukraine

as a deterrent Russia would have a new kind of Iron Curtain between

Ukraine

and Russia and in particular a nuclear armament that can already be experienced now, so there would be a moment the threat scenario for

Ukraine

because Russia would still have a bill open in quotation marks and the Russian President was the one that putin keeps getting worse for me Described as a loser would perhaps let that
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sit on her at first, but then again and again try to set pinpricks to compensate in any way for the defeat, the disgrace that she would of course never call that, but it is definitely possible because the

Ukraine

can do it actually pushing back Russian troops again and again and also making individual gains in the process and while we are already talking about Russia we ask the question directly what would a Russian victory mean and here too the definition of how much such a victory means there are also two variants namely a big win and a small one a victory we start with a small victory and that would be the status quo so you freeze the current situation, so to speak, as Saxus Minister President Kretschmer once demanded, for example, and says okay, what is now occupied by Russia also belongs to Russia, to the Russian Federation more precisely, and some attempts in this direction, there is already a so-called passportivation, people who live in the areas of

Ukraine

are turned into Russians and that in a very quick and complicated way in this way there are already Russian people are citizens although until recently they were Ukrainians Russia controls so this territory otherwise retreats no longer attacks

Ukraine

and says we have now achieved everything we wanted to achieve at the same time they are forcing

Ukraine

never to become members of NATO and never to become a member of the European Union en and that can then be more or less dictated to by Russia in a peace treaty
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because

Ukraine

has given up that would be the small victory the big victory is what Russia wanted from the start, although in the meantime the priorities have been implemented a bit or in which Putin wanted to erase

Ukraine

as a whole from the map, maybe still be a country on the map but put it under complete Russian influence and that would be the great Russian victory that the conquered areas might be expanded a bit in the area what was then new russia a country that existed around the 18th century you can look at that on the map and that area will become part of the russian federation and the rest of m

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n day

ukraine

will be put under full russian power you might be able to do that a bit compare to France in World War II Germany has part of the country s completely occupied and another part not occupied but put under German control with a puppet regime of the so-called Vichy regime, you can find out in the video above and that could also be a model for Russia's great victory that the Ukrainian government is completely controlled and that the new Ukrainian government that will then be installed by Russia will call on Russia to end-Nazify the country and that in turn would mean that Russian troops would be permanently stationed in

Ukraine

from that time onwards, the counterpart to the scenario US troops may be in

Ukraine

in this case while so are Russian troops in

Ukraine

Ukraine

would no longer exist as an independent country but is that realistic because already there
are partisans in the occupied territories in the Russian occupied territories one would have said the second world war people against them Occupier revolts who keep starting manipulation actions destroy things but also attack Russian soldiers directly and that would of course increase because Ukrainian national pride is greater than what Putin first thought many people in

Ukraine

will certainly not agree to being controlled by Russia and would try to rebel a civil war could also be the result or at least unrest that Russia would have to fight permanently one would have a source of unrest right in front of one's own front door that one would have to take care of, so in this case the smaller victory is probably the more realistic and in the long run view for Russia the more desirable variant and on this occasion we have to look at another aspect because you know that the

ukraine

war has long been much more than a local conflict that takes place in one country from the beginning it was a conflict that also took place internationally big re levanz was what would be the consequences of a Ukrainian victory and what would be the consequences of a Russian victory internationally a Ukrainian victory would certainly send a strong signal that Russia can be defeated by Vladimir Putin that he is by no means as strong as he repeatedly claims and that in turn Vladimir Putin could bring them back to the negotiating table in many areas and ensure that Russian demands, which are now being
voiced very loudly, are no longer voiced quite so loudly, however, Russia also has strong partners outside the West, above all India and China, which of course would be the question of how you would react to a Russian defeat but it is clear Russia would be significantly less strong than we Putin wishes he would like to help Russia to strengthen a kind of Soviet Union 2.0 of course not create the communist country but just by looking at it I have it in this video here a bit more detailed a she big ßlands, in turn, could lead to exactly the opposite after Turkey could show me that we are the strong power that I have always presented myself as and that would have a signal effect, under certain circumstances the West would now be forced back to the negotiating table
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